u/sheriffderek wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
part 2: Dang. Sorry. haha. I didn't want to write this much - or for you to have to read it... What's particularly interesting is that you seem to be holding bootcamps accountable for something that isn't really possible. You're essentially saying that the best way to get a job
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
yeah, we've had conversations in the past about people going to boot camps to learn rather than to get a job. unfortunately with the market right now, the people who are going to boot camps are people who have done a lot of research and are going to get a job.
like the people who are complaining to me so much about Codesmith right now is a mix of that. their teachers are recent graduates that don't know as much as they do because they were like super prepared and went there just to get a job. and then people who got a job or didn't get a job but are complaining that of way more people than expected in their cohorts did not get jobs yet and that they're very upset with the support they're getting, like cutting off mock interviews this month for alumni according to one person, something they promised for life.
like I hear so much about just one program because it's spiraled over the years and because they've pushed back so much it's resulted in more and more people just coming randomly to me out of the blue.
but this is a program that claims to be the best of the best and whose data showed that it was extremely strong during the good times. so it's a very good proxy to me of the whole industry.
but it's showing me that the argument that people should be going in with the right expectations might have been true when boot camps were really popular and people were going for all kinds of reasons and it was like hey hey go there for the right reasons. for right now for whoever's left who's going? they are going to absolutely get a job and I can't convince them otherwise.