u/Successful-Divide655 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Not saying this isn't true. But once again hypocrisy is at an all-time high. Every word of a cirr result is scrutinized to death, but one person comes on and says 1 person got hired and it's gospel because it reinforces the negative Codesmith theme. Critical thinking skills missi
u/michaelnovati replied · DELETED · archived copy ★ FEATURED
CIRR is dead and deserves scrutiny because Codesmith's marketing of it has mislead hundreds of people to pay them $21,500 in 2024, it is indeed worthy of scrutiny.
When Codesmith had like 12ish cohorts in 2024 and 2-3 of them say that they only know about 1 person placed in 6 months, that's not a fact by any means but it raises flags and warrants questions.
Codesmith's response has been to entirely evade the question.
They clearly have 2024 data of some kind that they are publishing, but they aren't publishing H1 2024 placement rates - which they obviously have preliminary versions of or they can't publish the offer data they have.
Even if they don't have or want to publish placements rates they can say "warning, placement rates are down, we want to double down on finding and supporting the RIGHT people for Codesmith so if you want to become a SWE, work with us and we'll be honest with you".
I don't know why they don't just accept reality and adjust and continue to try to manipulate things to be fine.
Like I said, King Lear all over, Emperor Has No Clothes, like we're talking age old human stories about the human condition and maybe it's not a surprise at all.