u/sheriffderek wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
\> trying to find any nook and cranny of advantage for your grads in a market so bad... I don't think this shows the full picture though. Not everyone is trying to get a *software engineering* job. There are plenty of web developer type jobs people who are reasonably capable ca
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I agree that the world is changing and SWE bootcamps haven't adapted, but at the same time the SWE market isn't tiny and it has trends and well the world is changing, there are tons of SWE jobs still and they are going to top CS students.
I'm using that to judge specific bootcamps marketing and claims that say otherwise.
Stanford CS is like 200K plus 4 years plus effort to even get in the first place.
So there's an argument that a boot camp could accelerate something in a shorter period of time, but it is not getting you to the same destination.
therefore, my view on this is that bootcamps are competing for the wrong SWE jobs.
It's irrelevant that the market changed, all that did was expose the above fundamental facts.
When I see bootcamps like Codesmith just yesterday advertising incredible 2024 outcomes (like they did throughout 2023 and 2024) they are absolutely delusional about reality and all the bootcamps that think like this are going to fail.