u/jcasimir wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
It's a bit tough because in the aggregate I don't want to see people misrepresenting themselves and also, I know that if I'm in those shoes, I'm doing everything I can to find a job even if it means bending the truth. I don't tell anyone to do those kinds of things and also I und
u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
Yeah for sure, I've also seen probably every permutation of representation under the sun haha.
Ultimately people are responsible for their individual choice. If they over-represent and perform poorly, then it makes companies never want to hire bootcamp grads again (which is one thing that has happened a number of times). If they over-represent and do well, do the ends justify the means? A lot of this is blurry for sure.
The thing I have a major problem with at Codesmith is the majority of people have the exact same looking experience on their resumes, and grads have told me it's the only way the career support engineers advise doing it (as an explanation as to why -as Codesmith denies telling people to do this) - and then their 'sister company' OSLabs signs letters of reference for background checks backing whatever people tell them they did.
Codesmith's CEO has stated explicitly that gatekeepers are blocking high-capacity bootcamp grads from getting a chance and that Codesmith grads ARE mid level and senior engineers - so while he's never said the 'ends justify the means' explicitly, he's implied that Codesmith grads should be getting jobs they deserve and it doesn't really matter how they get them.