u/jcasimir wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I think that's right. It's also a bit tough when we're always considering lagging indicators. No one wants to talk about 2021/2022 outcomes because that was "a different market" (I would agree), 2023 feels kind of "old", 2024 is so recent that you can only really evaluate the f
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Yeah I'm really curious what's working for entry level jobs. I have a very good handle through Formation on FAANG-mid-level and FAANG-senior.
As you know, I keep a close eye on Codesmith as the largest 'top 3' bootcamp, and placements are still terrible there and half the people placed have over a year of "work experience" on their LinkedIn which is their 3 week long project. I had some AI analyze that and it didn't do a good job to publish, but it was ridiculous to see maybe half the placements relying on framing a 3-4 week project as 12+ months of experiences only because they put "X - Present" on their LinkedIn and have been job hunting for 12+ months.... A bunch of the people also worked at Codesmith as a teaching assistant and they delay their clock by the time they worked there. So someone who graduated 2 years ago, was a part time assistant for 6 months, has 1.5 years at their group project listed on their LinkedIn then took another 11 months to get a job... counts a placement.
I hope Turing grads aren't getting jobs using these tactics. It does work, but some day it will collapse, and that might be now.