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The Present and Future of the Turing School

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u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
Wow that's a lot of hustle to try to find paths for grads and I think it's really the only way for bootcamps to survive right now.... by dedicating 150% of your time to trying to find any nook and cranny of advantage for your grads in a market so bad that each partnership puts only a small debt into the problem and you find something deep inside to keep on going. We've seen a similar level of trying creative angles at Launch School (e.g. open source mentorships on Firefox and such). Others give up and try to pivot to AI, like App Academy completely stopped its SWE program and only does AI - same with BloomTech. Launch Academy paused entirely. Some of the larger ones like General Assembly and Galvanize are somehow keeping the lights on and I would like to know more about them. I'm very nervous about Codesmith, which was arguably the top bootcamp based on outcomes until 2023, and which has made almost zero hiring program changes in response to the bootcamp crash of 2024 - with surface level marketing adjustments and no substantial changes. Spending a year to repurpose a failed ML offshoot and add 2 weeks and 5 AI lectures to their SWE program - some are already out of date. A Instead of trying to find all avenues possible for placement, their CEO is spending time writing a book about AI ethics and inequality, going to conferences. All while being completely delusional about a placement rate that dropped 30 to 50% 2022 to 2023, trying to be covered up with ghost placements.... just so polar opposite of the bootcamps that are hanging on. We'll see by the end of 2025 which SWE bootcamps make it, but it seems so far that the ones with their leaders giving their hearts and souls through 150% of their time, relentlessly trying to find creative new paths for their grads, are where I would bet on right now, not the ones focusing all of their time on creative marketing instead.