u/ericswc wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
This tracks. I have my own learning program (not a bootcamp) and I advise some bootcamps. There are jobs out there. The challenges are: 1. The bar has gone up. Where before mediocre people were finding work, they no longer are. More rigor is required. 2. AI slop is burying can
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
If you map out Codesmith's outcomes from 2021 -> 2024 with public data, you see 6 month placement rates dropping from like 90 -> 80 -> 70 -> 40%, you see salaries dropping like $125K -> $130K -> $120K -> $117K -> $110K
The trend doesn't look good.
BUT some people are getting jobs! The jobs do exist.
However I think it's going to take small bespoke programs working with the right people to get to the right place, and no program will systematically produce results.
These outcomes are the nail in the coffin to to speak because we've flipped from 'more likely than not' getting a job to not getting a job (when comparing apples to apples) so even the 'best bootcamp' can't more likely than not place someone in 6 months.