u/michaelnovati replied · DELETED · archived copy ★ FEATURED
I can give my thoughts knowing a lot of Codesmith grads and what they've been saying recently:
1. Is it worth it for someone who literally has a Computer Science degree? (I tend to struggle a lot with building projects of my own due to demotivation or lack of people that want to build things with me)
Placements are hovering somewhere below 50% six months after finishing Codesmith, so you are looking at ANOTHER YEAR before you get a job and maybe 2 more years, even going through Codesmith. Their most recent data shared showed something like 15% of people having CS degrees. I suspect that has increased in the current tough market for CS grads. I also believe people with CS and adjacent degrees have faired better than those without (anecdotal).
1. What did you build, what were teammates like?
I used to review a lot of the OSP group projects because people asked me to and they didn't get good code review from their mentors. You likely have more work experience than the mentors who will teach you.
The projects at Codesmith are far better than most other bootcamps.
But the projects are far bellow any internship work you've done so they will be useless for your resume.
1. What were the pros and cons?
PROS: there's no where else I've ever seen that builds peoples self confidence out of nothing like Codesmith. It's somewhat remarkable how they systematically do that for people and people leave feeling like they had a year of experience when they did not, and feeling like they can take on senior roles, which they cannot.
CONS: Instructors have minimal industry experience and all are graduates from Codesmith itself (even the most senior ones). People feel pressured to apply to mid level and senior jobs and feel like they don't get support for entry level ones.
1. The people who did get a placement, what did it take?
The trend amongst placed people in this time window was that they represented a 3 week long project on average as 11 months of work experience on their resumes: [https://www.reddit.com/r/codingbootcamp/comments/18cpq98/analysis\_of\_52\_most\_recent\_codesmith\_offers/](https://www.reddit.com/r/codingbootcamp/comments/18cpq98/analysis_of_52_most_recent_codesmith_offers/)
1. The people who didn't, do you believe you could've done better or do you think you genuinely tried your best but it wasn't enough?
The people I talk to didn't want to lie on their resumes and felt like Codesmith's advisors and alumni couldn't help them make a resume that was meant for zero experience entry level jobs.
Others didn't network well with alumni IMO.
1. If not CodeSmith, is there anything else?
There isn't much that can help right now. I would try doing a masters degree and more internships. But I also think you probably have enough internships to apply RIGHT NOW in the spring recruiting cycle.