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BREAKING NEWS: Codesmith 2023 official outcomes published: CANNOT BE WORSE - placement rate crashed from 70% to 29%. Enrollment also tanked over 50%. The software engineering bootcamp era is over.

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u/_cofo_ wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Well, it’s not surprising. The bootcamp itself is not the root of the problem. I feel bad though for the alumni who believed in the program and paid for that. This “short-cut” idea of success in swe it’s getting quite sketchy. Bootcamps need to improve their programs, no more fas

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I'm seeing a lot of bootcamps pivoting to AI in a cash grab, many paused their SWE programs while they do so. I'm REALLY nervous about bootcamps trying to exploit their alumni for cash like Codesmith is with their AI/ML Leadership course. I've reviewed the course and this free YouTube video from an industry leader with 10+ years of AI experience across two of the top research labs + OpenAI + Tesla Director of AI: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xTGNNLPyMI](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xTGNNLPyMI) I feel for Codesmith - their AI course is taught by some awesome individuals, but they have like 1 year of SWE experience each and it just doesn't stack up in any way to Andrei and Andrei's course is 100% free. I quite frankly don't really know what anyone at Codesmith can do to catch up to someone like Andrei in teaching AI directly now that Andrei started a company to teach people AI. I can see bootcamps moving towards taking materials from experts like Andrei and reviewing them and offering practice problems and projects and reviews and study groups and peer exercises etc.... But $5000 for 4 weeks of part time course... I don't think so.