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BREAKING NEWS: Codesmith 2023 official outcomes published: CANNOT BE WORSE - placement rate crashed from 70% to 29%. Enrollment also tanked over 50%. The software engineering bootcamp era is over.

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u/KingOfLucis wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Yeah I can count in one hand the number of companies that still offer apprenticeships for bootcamp grads and they only get like 5-8 people. It's still possible to land a job as a bootcamp grad but you have to really stand out and have other qualifications (non cs degree, profes

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I posted about this in another thread somewhere but the new administrations stance in the USA about DEI is also causing a lot of apprenticeships and programs for non traditional pathways to be shutdown, and while that impacts a lot of sources of people, it doesn't help bootcamp grads at all. A world of "meritocracy" does not favor a bootcamp grad with ZERO SWE experience, no matter how much potential they have. They are going to have to build experience with unpaid internships, contracts, etc... to compete with 'meritocracy' On the other hand, a new trend is the "IQ Test" approach - ignore background and do an IQ test and if it's high enough then you get the job regardless. This might give some bootcamp grads a shot who have high IQs but you can't increase your IQ with a bootcamp, so.... I don't think it will keep the bootcamp industry alive but it might open up more direct paths for brilliant people to get SWE jobs without experience and without having to pay $22K for a bootcamp.