u/OriginalAge5784 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
People graduating bootcamps have never really been competent and were only hired because companies were put under 'hire 2000 people before EOY' goals by clueless leadership, which meant teams hired people they knew couldn't do the job just to keep their bosses happy. Now the mar
u/michaelnovati replied ·
I know some exceptional bootcamp grads that through lots of ups and downs are doing amazing things and wouldn't be there if they didn't make a career change.
The problem is that those people didn't need a bootcamp to succeed, even if they credit their bootcamp as the reason for their success. The people probably could have switched through self-teaching and the right transition role. Maybe the bootcamp was even worth the cost to help, but given than they let in all of these people that never had a chance, it's hard to say the bootcamps did anything.
I think the tiny programs that help like 10 people at a time might still make sense to help these exceptional people transition, but I don't see a world where the bootcamp model as a big business will work ever again for canonical Software Engineers.