u/abl3-to wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I don't think it's going to change anything. I see companies getting rid of DEI policies is more of a move to prevent lawsuits. It's deregulation to prevent any arbitration. They still need the programmers to develop all this software. More and more companies are building and mar
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I've heard this narrative at Codesmith a few times: traditionally non tech companies need to become tech companies so they are hiring tons of engineers.
1. These companies are not hiring the best of the best (because their business doesn't have high enough margins to pay what FAANG pays), so if you want to be a best of the best engineering, you need to go to a top company and learn from the best. Even if there are more jobs here, you might be slowing down your career by taking them, especially if you are ambitious.
2. A lot of these non-tech companies outsource to top companies by buying their products and integrating them. They want to buy the best software from DataBricks because they can't remotely hire the same talent as DataBricks to build similar software in house. They also outsource more development to contracting firms abroad. So the growth in need for programming doesn't necessarily turn into jobs for bootcamp grads and might turn into more jobs at top companies (which bootcamp grads have a hard time competing for) and foreign jobs.
3. Codesmith said that all the FAANG layoffs gave these traditionally non-tech companies a chance to hire ex-FAANG engineers and working there is like working at FAANG now. This is a laughable statement as while some talent laid off is good, the best people were not laid off and continue to be at their FAANG jobs. This argument is saying that taking people who were average performers or often the lower performers at FAANG and treating them as if they are top performers at these non tech companies to impart all of their wisdom to others will create a similar environment to FAANG.... and I couldn't disagree more with that. Being a low performer at FAANG might just mean it was the wrong environment for you, but you aren't going to Macy's and turning Macy's into a FAANG-level of talent.