u/AaronMichael726 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
DEI does not impact entry level. Entry level is traditionally diverse in nature. It will have more an impact on management. It’s a leap to think this will shift to top 20 schools because diverse candidates don’t matter anymore. But either way it’s more about market saturation t
u/michaelnovati replied ·
Entry level talent has become more naturally demographically diverse as demographics in college CS programs change. The diversity we're talking about is trying to open the top of funnel to non-traditional talent - like bootcamp grads and people who grew up in places where considering CS as a career was not even a thought, and they want to do CS and have a talent for it, but no means to catch up.
I agree internships are surging, but they came back after the FAANG layoffs, and at FAANG the conversion rate is as high as they can make it - the fall recruiting season is really to fill in slots remaining after interns get first crack.
It's just rational - you get to work with someone for 3 months and know exactly if they should convert or not, whereas a new grad without that you are taking a risk based only on the interview process and their resume... it's rational to do as much new grad headcount hiring through internships.
Apprenticeships come in two flavors and I agree with the type you are talking about. The LinkedIn Reach, Asana Up, Dropbox Ignite, Pinterest, Microsoft Leap, etc... (FAANG) are not at all about cheap labor. The money to train the people far outweighs the benefit they deliver in code productivity.
I might be a bit bias because I worked at Meta for 8 years, did UR hiring, and have partnerships with Netflix and Waymo now for intern hiring, and former employees at Meta and OpenAI in these areas now.
Definitely a FAANG bias.