u/WillHungFan wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I did same as you and there is not much to say. I did a bootcamp in early 2023 and after a 10 month slog of a job search that didn't look much different from your experience, I got a job. I got my job through a referral of an acquantance of mine who did a coding bootcamp bac
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Thanks for sharing. In my opinion, this is the key sentence: "I don't think any of them can live up to their promises reliably"
Who is to say those people, e.g. who worked on wall street, couldn't have gotten jobs on their own or for far cheaper?
Bootcamps that cost like $22K for 13 weeks is crazy expensive, if the correlative factor to getting a job is luck + background. Maybe paying for a network increases your luck, and when it works, is worth $100K, but $22K just averages that out across 5 people - one of whom gets lucky and the rest are ripped off.
The AI programs rolling out, like the one at Codesmith is $4600 for ONE MONTH at 15 hours a week! Even more expensive per hour...
**Anyways, my point is that the bootcamp model is broken and doesn't work anymore because most don't deliver fundamental value for their cost.**
If you take all the harvard grads who want to switch to SWE, you can help them network and prepare for interviews for far cheaper than $22K and a completely different model is needed. All you need is a Udemy course with a Slack that gates people on having an ivy league degree.
BloomTech's Gauntlet AI course is a bit like this - you have to pass an IQ test and score in the 90th percentile to get in and then it's entirely **free**.
Now imagine charging $22K AND requiring you to be exceptional to get in... that sounds like a scam, and that's why bootcamps are failing.