u/k0secha wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I think people can’t take CIRR seriously as it is run by CodeSmith, how is that not a conflict of interest?
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Hey, yeah CIRR is business league responsible to supporting the businesses of it's bootcamp members - it's not impartial.
1. CIRR has only 3 reporting companies left, one of which had like 15 grads in 2022, one is in Indonesia and didn't report FY 2022 properly, so **Codesmith IS CIRR at this point**.
2. CIRR changing the standards last year to report 360 day outcomes instead of 180 day outcomes was a massive coverup to conceal terrible H2 2022 outcomes. Since Codesmith filed H1 2022 and FY 2022 outcomes, you can calculate the H2 2022 outcomes from that data and they did indeed tank really bad.
3. Not only is a Codesmith Advisor on the board, but she brought in other board members who are friendly with her
4. A former Codesmith grad was temporarily working for CIRR to rebuild their new website after they got locked out and lost all their old website stuff.
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I wish this wasn't all the case because CIRR could be a really good force, but students need to understand the reality so they aren't duped by CIRR, Course Report, and others that appear impartial, but are **FUNDED BY THE BOOTCAMPS THEMSELVES** and require bootcamps to survive for them to survive.