u/SenderShredder wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Years of ups and down, I call that "the life." People think bootcamp will equal job because that's what the diploma mills are selling, but after you "graduate" you gotta live "the life" with no guarantee of success if you want that first real SWE job. In my experience it's like
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Yeah I see this kind of thing often. I started doing an analysis of bootcamps grads trajectories and if they still had their first job a year out. I didn't complete it, but it was a shockingly high number of people who changed jobs or didn't have a job within a year or so after their first one.
The job is just the beginning. Bootcamps sell you the job as the end because for them that's when they advertise you everywhere and call it a day.
There's even a bootcamp Codesmith that after promising support for life after, just launched a cash grab AI followup course for $900 for alumni. A completely untested gamble and having the audacity to charge alumni for it. In all fairness, they don't charge for the classroom part of the course as they offer that in their bootcamp now and retroactively give that to alumni for free, so you are paying $900 for 4 Saturday workshops and a monthly "leadership circle". There are a ton of free AI meetups right now and go to those instead and save your money. Meanwhile inflation was running rampant and average base salaries there are down from $130K in 2021 to $117K now... and they increased the price a couple thousand dollars since then! it's really stressful to try to navigate these changes when bootcamps are marketing hard in the face of collapse.