u/Team_Codesmith wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Hi Michael - it’s fabulous to see your continued fascination with our program (despite being one of our competitors). We’re really proud of the outcomes our alumni are achieving in what hasn’t been the easiest of markets. We’re always proud to share those results with folks in
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Why do you consider me personally your competitor or Formation your competitor? We don't consider you a competitor and I've stated that for like over 2 years now.
Not only that, but I've tried to explain in numerous ways why we aren't your competitor, in writing, in detail, to your leadership, which you haven't refuted and just keep calling Formation your competitor passive aggressively.
Are you seeing a bunch of people applying to Codesmith and asking about Formation? And if so, were those people OFFICIALLY ACCEPTED BY FORMATION or they just mentioned hearing about it or wanting to go there in the future?
I really want to sort this out, all of the alumni that have come to Formation that have talked to me about this (which is probably bias sample) have asked me to try to make sort this out with you because Formation is an amazing complement to Codesmith. These people have fully been in both worlds and know better than you do what Formation is and better than I what Codesmith is.
If you are talking to these alumni and they are saying that we are a secret competitor and was just the same as Codesmith, then I need to know that, I haven't heard that.
If you think we compete for other reasons, I want to know that and why.
I ran our average salary for Match 1st to August 29th, it is $165K AVERAGE BASE SALARY. This is because the average experience of the people is a number of years. About 75% of offers went to TOP TIER COMPANIES (50% were what we consider the FAANG-level).
Like do exactly what I say we do - for example, we work with people who got that first $117K job out of Codesmith, worked for about 2 years, come to us, get the $165K mid-level top tier job. These stats are very in line with what alumni are saying above.