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Comparing Outco, Formation, Interview Kickstart, and Pathrise

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u/BayleeBaylee4578 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Again, thanks for your responses, I appreciate them. I get that you're small but, I mean, you've got the time to do very detailed deep dives into the data, outcomes, and staff structures and pay of other bootcamps - and post regularly about it, so it's a little difficult to beli

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
1. I do so for bootcamps because I work with a bunch of bootcamp grads later on in their careers and feel like I can combine that with my FAANG experience to give solid advice to peple looking at bootcamps. Formation isn't a bootcamp. If you are going to keep putting in that bucket despite my repeated attempts to explain the difference then that's on you, but I see no problems talking about BOOTCAMPS that have nothing to do with what I do. 2. Yeah we could come up with some kind of aggregated 'amount of time to get a job' data I think, but we have to account for week to week workload adjustments people meet (which is very frequent, vacations and pauses, offer times vs interview times, which topics people were working on and weren't at which times, time to first offer versus time to offer accepted (since people can get multiple offers and intentionally DELAY THEIR JOB HUNT to create a competitive offer situation), factor in some qualitative info, and then figure out how to aggregate and slice and dice it. In lieu of that we talk to people 1-1 right now and do the best we can because we think it's better to talk about all of this in a 1-1 discussion than show you some number. We might be wrong here and maybe we're losing out on tons of engineers who aren't even getting past the homepage. 3. The stats were that the post views are 1/10th of other posts in here. Second, you were flagged as a new user with little history and Crowd Control more aggrresively collapses your comments so people have to look pretty hard to find these deeper comments in threads. Third, about 12 pro-Codesmith accounts were permanently suspended from Reddit last time I escalated to corporate to look into behind the scenes behaviors, and there is a history of someone or some people there manipulating Reddit content.