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Comparing Outco, Formation, Interview Kickstart, and Pathrise

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u/BayleeBaylee4578 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Thanks for your responses, yeah let’s keep discussing! So I don’t think I communicated myself clearly if you thought I wanted clarity on what “guaranteed” means. I completely understand the meaning of the word - it’s rather categorical in that way. That's exactly why I don’t t

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I'll give feedback to our marketing lead about the wording. We change our wording often and I stand by the wording. No one who has joined has mentioned finding this confusing. But if we're losing people from applying because they think it sounds like a scam then we should change it! But our marketing lead has to deep dive and make a call first. We officially do not consider Codesmith a competitor at this time and in the past and do not market to the same people. Definitive answer on the record. I've emailed the same thing to one of their leaders and explained why. Launch School is not at all a competitor to Pathrise. It's extremely important that the record is extremely clear we aren't a bootcamp and don't work with people with less than 2 years of experience. Struggling bootcamp and CS grads are banging at our door and we have a small team and it's wasting time explaining to each of them that we do not support their background right now. So I need to make it abundantly clear that if you are considering Codesmith or Launch School and don't have 2 years of work experience, Formation is not the right thing for you. I'm not on Reddit for marketing and I rarely talk about Formation compared to other things. You brought it up!! Our competitors are the three others that you mentioned, not bootcamps. If you can get all of their founders here talking to you openly that they compete with bootcamps, let me know, it's fake news.