Comparing Outco, Formation, Interview Kickstart, and Pathrise

Happy to keep discussing yeah, we're not perfect and some of our reasons might not be good enough but I can at least explain what those reason are directly from one of the founders 🙂. PART 1: 1. I hear you on clarifying what "guaranteed means", because there are qualifiers that I explained, and maybe there is a better one liner for it. The support is guaranteed until you get a job is how I would respond/state it given your framing. RE: " lifetime career support, job hunt help", my gosh some bootcamps promise this and it's not remotely the same as what any of these four programs offer and not nearly the same as what Formation offers. I don't want to write paragraphs here but to put it one way, a number of "DS&A career support engineers" at a top bootcamp like Codesmith have come to Formation themselves to work on their skills and get their next job. Years ago I had debates on people here that insisted Codesmith's lifetime support was on paper the same as what Formation offers and I DID write paragraphs back then haha. Take System Design. Codesmith spends 2 days on it and has had a couple of alumni lectures that were EXTREMELY basic through the Formation lens. At Formation you spend about 4 to 8 weeks on System Design, do up to 2 dozen small group sessions, and you keep working on it until you pass FAANG-level System Design mock interviews. Another interesting stat is that maybe 5 to 10% of people who have done Formation have **paid to come back and do it AGAIN** for their next job hunt. Further demontrating that what we do effective, but also not cheap for us to offer and you have to pay for this level of service, you can't get it free for life from a bootcamp.