u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
There are absolutely success stories for H1 2024 grads
The problem is that anecdotal success stories should not be used to judge any bootcamp.
I would need to spend some time chatting with someone, reviewing their LinkedIn, resume, and debrief their entire job hunt, to access the role the bootcamp played in the person's success and without that it's meaningless right now.
I'm really sad with the state of things right now. It's not doom and gloom but just reality. Pretending things are good is extremely harmful to those of you looking to put down 20 or 30K. But for the right people bootcamp are still a good choice... the set of people being the "right people" just being very small now.
I did a six month post graduation analysis for November and December 2023 Codesmith grads because I have decent data sources for them.
I'm not going to quote the placement rate I see in my data because it's so terrible compared to past estimates that I'm concerned and wanted to try to talk to them first. The way they are talking about outcomes does not correlate with what I see and if you are a prospective student, make sure to do your homework.
They had 5 cohorts graduate in Nov and Dec, and I could barely get into two digits of offers for those graduates. It's possible that there are massive amounts of ghosters who got jobs or other things and Codesmith please reach out if I'm missing something so I can correct.
I was looking into this to try to get a pulse on the market and for better or worse, Codesmith is the other place that shares enough raw data directly and indirectly to even try to compare and I've been monitoring it for some time now.
I have been talking about this for a while now and gotten attacked by a bunch of suspicious accounts. Fortunately Reddit suspended a dozen pro Codesmith accounts and two Codesmith moderators permanently from Reddit so hopefully we can discuss things reasonably instead of dealing with bad actors.
Again, if you work at Codesmith or are an alumni from end of 2023 feel free to offer your perspective too and clarify so we can progress the discussion constructively.