u/sheriffderek wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
It all depends on the person and the job and what they learned while they were there. There’s tons of domain-specific knowledge that’s move valuable than coding once you have it. There are jobs where people repeat tasks and don’t learn much or have much to show for it. Other jobs
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
We had someone join us who wanted to do Formation with no experience. I told them to go to Codesmith and come to Formation in a year or two. Instead they got a role at a startup in another country and came to Formation after 6 months. Person just got a job at Google in a SWE adjacent programming role.
I don't think bootcamps work right now and would love to see something like the above. Training focused apprenticeships for people with zero programming training that are paid for via tax credits to big companies that pay for the person and more. The bootcamps could be more like level up tools to go from that to full time role. The anecdote above was a one off and not reproducible and a special person who is extremely driven with significant tech industry experience.
People getting jobs tend to rely on some creative representation of past work anyways and giving those people real training work would be way better.
The Obama administration tried to do this and Google was the first big tech to have official government registered apprenticeships https://buildyourfuture.withgoogle.com/apprenticeships