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Don't go to Codesmith from a Codesmith alumni

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u/NinJ4ng wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

i went to a free codesmith seminar in 2019, it was basically a presentation run by Will Sentence where he talked step by step how codesmith would help land you a job. it went fine, and i actually enjoyed the strategy. after it was over he invited everyone for drinks, i dont dri

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Congrats on your trajectory! Would love to hear more about how you got the first job. I work with some people self taught and we found that they often have equal or better outcomes than bootcamp grads (NOT ENOUGH DATA TO MAKE A CONCLUSION ON THIS) and it's interesting to me. I couple of people have told me about weird interactions with Will that resulted in them staying clear of Codesmith, like he had note card of facts about people that he paused and looked up in front of them when he met them? But I'm an extremely socially anxious person and sometimes a bit awkward and it might just be his personality or sense of humor too. I would say in general though the second largest anecdotal complaint I get is social pressure to participate is very off-putting if it's not for you. The examples reported to me are: 1. Trying really hard to make people turn cameras on. But passive aggressively trying to force it. Saying it's fine to have it off but then things like 'maybe I'll randomly call on someone with camera off this time'. It's in the Codesmith Instructor teaching materials. 2. Making people snap all the time for giving trivial answers. I don't know if they do this as much anymore but in the past was a frequent complaint. 3. Social pressure to attend "family dinners" which felt cult-y to a number of people. 4. Squashing self-negativity through 'correction'. If you say things negative you are told to "snuggle the struggle" and made to feel like you are being monitored for saying only positive things. I have seen some of this stuff in various sessions and recordings. I think it all helps self select people they want. Codesmith is for everyone to break down walls.... as long as you fit in and don't say anything negative... then you are kicked out and silenced by a mob.