⚠️ WARNING: Codesmith subreddit is mostly propaganda (resharing Codesmith content without full context and boosting with positive comments from accounts that mostly post about Codesmith only). Challenges and negative comments are called "lies" and you get banned. BE SMART AND THINK CRITICALLY.

I agree that for profit business are companies and they have to make money, and they can make money in a win-win way that improves the overall economy and people's lives, but that marketing isn't something bad or evil or despicable, it's normal. I have the same advice with reading any bootcamps outcomes. I'm very on top of TripleTen because their stats are carefully worded too (and also not lying or false, just worded well by a marketer). We need people having reasonable and thoughtful discussions about these things openly to move the industry forward. The bootcamp industry is barely surviving right now and using marketing to convince more people to join to keep it alive isn't going to solve the systemic market problems that are stopping bootcamp grads. I've said this once or twice now but Codesmith might have a good angle with getting people into non-SWE technical jobs, or with leveling up their current jobs with coding and AI. Accountant -> Codesmith -> better Accountant and I would love to talk about these things openly. Maybe the best coding bootcamp shouldn't try to produce software engineers right now. But Codesmith's leaders dig their heels in and just every time I bring up this discussing amplify their language about "senior placements" and "modern engineers" and "industry leaders", and it's just going in the wrong direction. I'm worried if they don't confront reality and are distracted by defending themselves they won't make long term.