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Line by Line Rebuttal to Codesmith CEO dodging question about placement rates in a challenging market

r/codingbootcamp

u/awp_throwaway wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

This is definitely peak "pot calling kettle black." I can't take anybody seriously who makes an effort post over "your boot camp sucks" in the same breath as "but mine is different tho" without acknowledging that the model overall is not viable in a severely downturned market (i.

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
No one should be choosing Formation over a bootcamp at all. a We work with people to support their goals. Right now we have observed very clearly that there is no systematic way for people with no experience to get jobs and we therefore don't take new people with no experience. We still have people with us with under a year of experience for 1.5ish years because of our indefinite support promise. We had three ex Facebook senior engineers start recently, current Google Manager, like these are not people considering Codesmith, Hack Reactor, Springboard, etc... Or are you saying they are? That a staff engineer at Meta is choosing between Codesmith and Formation? They are choosing between Interview Kickstart and Formation. I don't really know how to explain this more clearly, but I'll keep trying because I don't want anyone coming to us for the wrong thing, it's a waste of everyone's time.