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r/codingbootcamp

u/starraven wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Oof I guess they all went south. Yeah my friends did it in person in 2017.

u/michaelnovati replied ·
I was talking to someone recently about a top tier bootcamps and "selection bias". If a program survived/survives off of identify special people that work for the program and admitting them, it's going to be limited to 1) the number of "special people" the program can find, and 2) the market wanted these "special people" We've seen both hurt previously great bootcamps. Some lowered the bar and took anyone who would pay. Others haven't adapted to the market. The new wrench in the current market is that the people might not be getting "software engineer" jobs at all. A top bootcamp that is just barely getting by right now (as all the top bootcamps are) has been highlighting placements as support engineers, or prompt engineers, or lawyer engineer, and things that aren't even SWE jobs anymore. ... so I guess in my rambling, maybe there's option #3 - change the definition of the expected result to match the market. If you can't place SWE, change your marketing so people expect a "tech job" instead and if you can keep the placements going, you can survive.