u/AT1787 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I don’t disagree but until they have a “Software Engineer in Training” as a formal title on resume, I don’t think putting Software Engineer post bootcamp on your resume is a heuristic for the dunning kruger effect. It’s moreso a case by case basis on how someone receives feedback
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Yeah I agree. We don't have apprenticeships en masse so what should someone do? It's a free for all and I don't think there is one way to do it, but the result is bootcamp grads fighting to find edge cases and one off opportunities to get a foot in the door.
Now that the entry level market was wiped out and there are no loopholes we're seeing a bunch of bootcamps struggling and shutting down and laying off.
The response has been to rebrand tangential engineering jobs as just as good or better than SWE jobs and have people go there.
Codesmith had a grad go to Palantir as a customer support engineer and framed it as a new role for the modern engineer.... when it's an age old role that is NOT a SWE role even though it is indeed a great job.
But these are the times we're in. If there are no SWE jobs and you can't rebrand, you will fail, not enough entry level SWE jobs to make a program that systematically places people into them.
Sorry a bit tangent, but trying to add depth onto the complexities here that make this way more than a tweet haha