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I’m Annie, Codesmith’s Director of Outcomes. AMA! on r/codesmith

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u/Primary_Initial_3274 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

[This message you copied without permission](https://www.reddit.com/r/codingbootcamp/comments/1bnqrn8/comment/kwutjtf/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) from the codesmith slack that Andrea intended just for that domain. She

u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
1. This is a completely different thread about CIRR and you didn't give any context, didn't give any feedback privately or on that other thread, and are bringing it up here on a thread about Codesmith - all without any context. **I absolutely copied that comment from that person from CSX Slack in that thread,** and I don't apologize for it at all. Anonymizing a comment from a 20,000 public Slack community that anyone is invited to join is not morally or ethically wrong. 2. She said she was new to the community and then that "we" (without clarifying) started the Codesmith sub for "especially those who are new to Codesmith like me!"... to me that implied that all the people who started it were new to the community. I agree this could be ambiguous, and I think I should have stated something like 'I am interpreting this to mean that it was started from people only new to the community for people new to the community. Primary - if you aren't new to the community, I personally want know your intentions and motivations, if it's not that, because now I'm not sure why that sub was started anymore. 3. "Content and Community" at Codesmith is the "marketing" function. They hired a 3rd party "marketing company" to supplement the team after the layoffs. The 'marketing' person I am referring to I said was a career marketing director who calls herself a "Marketing Executive" as her LinkedIn tagline and her title at Codesmith was "Director of Content & Community" and her previous titles were: "Director of Marketing Services", "Director of Operations", "Marketing Manager, Home Services", "Sr. Associate Marketing Manager", "Sr Associate Business Manager". If Annie told you they never had a marketing director then two rational possibilities: either genuinely just doesn't know how the content functions works and what that person did - when there are only about 4 directors at Codesmith, or she might be playing games with you just because the person's on paper title didn't match. 4. I agree, you didn't explicitly say "don't comment on this post", I'm not going to share our DMs but I think that that was a reasonable interpretation of the conversation and what I thought we agreed on as a compromise. Doesn't seem like we're on the same wavelength so I'll be more direct in future conversations. 5. The entire marketing team was laid off (source: this is from a combination of checking their website frequently to see who is employed as a content employee and talking to individuals who were laid off at Codesmith who approached me seeking advice after being laid, losing trust with Codesmith leaders, and feeling like they could trust me because they felt like my analysis of Codesmith was accurate). Chris was hired to support the community, such as posting the weekly list of events in CSX Slack, and recently to write blog posts as the remaining members of that team departed. 6. "revealing student data you don't' have consent to view" - what data is this and what consent don't I have. This is slanderous if you don't have factual evidence of this in your possession.