u/Swami218 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
No drama? I think you’re idealizing this sub lol The goal is 100% reporting, so it seems normal to me that if people don’t answer the email survey they’d recruit instructors to reach out as they’re warm contacts. Regarding ‘coordinated responses’ - I mean, it’s possible, but I’
u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
No drama when people are boringly transparent and don't have a single thing to read between the lines: [https://www.reddit.com/r/codingbootcamp/comments/1blhhh0/launch\_schools\_2023\_capstone\_outcomes\_commentary/](https://www.reddit.com/r/codingbootcamp/comments/1blhhh0/launch_schools_2023_capstone_outcomes_commentary/)
If Codesmith's CEO just says straight up like Launch School's founder did, people had low morale and started ghosting from Codesmith and it was devastating blow to Codesmith's culture and one of the reasons they shrunk down 70% (est. 1000 alumni in 2023 vs on pace for 300 in 2024) so they can re-focus on a tighter and more supportive group of residents, then that's FANTASTIC.
All of the alumni from BEFORE this "ghost era" who had that great culture should cheer on that kind of change instead of misleading prospective students that everything is still fine because Codesmith had a great culture 2 years ago.
Without any official commentary, the data shows that Codesmith did have a great culture, then took a ding from 25% ghosting, and is trying to reset to a great culture again now.
Reasonable, no drama.
Instead the attitude is 'Codesmith changed my life, how dare you criticize the culture, you are bias and a hypocrite trying to steal Codesmith students with sleazy marketing'... unnecessary drama that's just fabricated and not following facts.
Facts and facts and upvotes and downvotes don't change facts and facts shouldn't have drama.
Note: if you didn't know that leadership asked instructors to help boost CIRR outcomes by reaching out to students socially, then you probably don't know about the efforts to influence online narrative/Reddit that are going on either. It's a small number of people who are very close with leadership, not random Redditors being recruited.