Codesmith's Unofficial/Reverse Engineered H2 2022 CIRR Report - NOTABLE OPINIONS: concerning increase in number of ghosters on salaries (that still counted as job obtainers !!), 180 day placement rate of 63% (a little higher than expected)

+1 it can go both ways for sure and I didn't comment on salaries at all. That said, there are always people who ghost salaries every half, and it's generally a smaller number, but it REALLY tanked this half and I think something else is going on. Like combining all of this, 25% of people are ghosting in some way in H2 versus hardly anyone in H1 and the market only got worse in the rest of 2023 for H1 2023 grads. It should be zero surprise that sentiment on this sub is bad and that enrollment tanked 70% in end of 2023 and it's certainly not me pointing this stuff out that's causing it. Smart engineers making $130K salaries can figure this out by talking to these alumni and hearing about this stuff from them. Now I have inside info here that end of last year, Instructors were asked to text and reach out to alumni to try to get placement info out of them via whatever means they could to try to boost CIRR numbers. So instructors would reach out saying "hi" or socially how things are going via text or LinkedIn, with the goal of extracting CIRR information to count people as placements because the CIRR numbers were too low. I don't think this is necessarily a bad thing, but clearly the ghosting and placement rates have been an issue on Codesmith's mind and it hasn't been talked about at all officially. Launch School is completely transparent about ghosting rates cohort to cohort and it's not something that needs to be defended, Codesmith just needs to be transparent and explain it and I know a ton of concerned people that will be happy. All the alumni's attitudes today have been to coordinate responses, deflect, and attack me because my company doesn't participate in CIRR, and someone tell those Codesmith alumni they are playing the wrong game here.