u/Several_Top1693 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
If you were serious about transparency, you would release that data to a third party that is audited by a legit auditor. Your smoke and mirrors, bro. You use Reddit to market Formation. We can all see right through it.
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
Which competitors am I discrediting? Our competitors are Interview Kickstart, Pathrise, and Outco (before they kind of went MIA) and I never say anything to discredit them on Reddit or anywhere and I've even ENCOURAGED people to go TO SPECIFIC ONES in specific situations, e.g. for Product Management - which we don't help weith.
Our recruiters talk day in and day out with people considering between these options (or only considering Formation) and these are our competitors.
It comes up like ONCE a month that someone is considering a bootcamp OR Formation and the recruiters escalate to see if the person is experienced enough for Formation. The bootcamps vary from Codesmith to Springboard and the majority of the time if the people don't have experience we tell them to go to a bootcamp.
If someone has legit SWE experience for 1+ years they should not go to a bootcamp in almost all circumstances but if for some reason a bootcamp was best for a specific person I would tell them and my team would tell them.
It's far far far more common that bootcamp alumni (specifically Codesmith, Hack Reactor, Rithm, Launch School) come to us 1 to 5 years LATER ON for future job transitions.