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CIRR appears to be done and irrelevant now - Codesmith needs to get off the Titanic before it sinks (Personal Opinion)

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u/curiousinquirer007 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Isn’t CIRR the only objective metric of bootcamp outcomes though? Or are you saying it is no longer a metric at all and old data (like the 2022H1 on CodeSmith website) has no meaning today? If it’s no longer reliable, how can people like me evaluate the market and choose the rig

u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I wouldn't say it's the "only objective metric" no. It's a reliable and good signal to use, combined with other data and information. The outcomes themselves are more indicative of the job market than the programs themselves, so judging a program by it's outcomes alone was never a good idea, even in the good times. The fact that a CIRR report exists checks off one box of legitimacy, but it's far more concerning that Codesmith and possibly others had H2 2022 outcomes audited and ready for 6 months and won't share them, while they tout H1 2022 numbers in marketing. Even if this was not CIRR data, if that fact was true I would be demanding transparent placement rates before signing an agreement if it was me, but others might have a different bar.