u/Competitive-Feed-359 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
I think don’s invitation to codesmith to share their side is a good opportunity for people at codesmith to get the “fair shake” they’ve always wanted from this sub. given that Don was predominantly using one of the CS review on this sub for the video, I think they can address tw
u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
The challenge of posting here is they will be directly confronted by me - with my personal hat on, not moderator hat and not Formation hat - in a neutral territory about the three topics I have person opinions on:
1. Constant, loud statements that they product mid-level and senior engineers with zero experience
- I think this is the one we can debate well, because it's a definitions issue, and a debate over what definition Codesmith should use to communicate accurately to the public
2. OSP representation. I would never accuse them of explicitly telling people to lie because there is only evidence of the contrary. But I would not accept any other comments on anything without an explanation as to why they let the majority of people who get jobs exaggerate their experience and if they weren't aware, what they will do about it now that they are.
- I think this one would be scary for Codesmith to comment on because I have the spreadsheet and the data and they can't dance around the issue and if they proactively stopped people from doing it, but still target mid-senior roles, I don't think anyone will get jobs and it will fall apart.
3. Targeting mid level and senior roles. Many people I talk to feel pressure to get high paying jobs and feel discouraged from going to apprenticeships. Whereas I feel that the IDEAL path for the S-TIER bootcamp grads is S-TIER apprenticeships.
- I think this would be a good debate too