u/joeyfosho wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
He won’t because Codesmith relies on deception in order to get their graduates employed. 48/52 people don’t just randomly decide to lie about their experience. The base line of human ethical behavior is better than that. They were encouraged to lie, or “stretch the truth” or
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I mean I've seen the paperwork and lecture notes and they very adamantly tell people not to lie.
But I agree that they in the same breath tell them that OSLabs will complete background checks for your entire time at Codesmith on the 4 week projects because they say you were in 'OSLabs that entire time'. And they tell you to list your other Codesmith projects in parallel with overlapping timeframes.
Similarly, the representation of prior jobs is borderline. Don't lie, that customer service job was actually a "Support Engineer" role you just have imposter syndrome and are underselling yourself. I work with a number of students and grads unofficially/casually to help them tell their stories because they feel like they can't tell their authentic story at Codesmith.
Finally, I know someone that worked with a career support engineer to squeeze 4 YOE out of their resume when they had 0, they didn't show me that version but they got the job.
**It's not so cut and dry though...**
The people I talk to are hard working and ambitious engineers who really want to do go and really want their shot to prove it and won't mess up their shot.
So I can see how on an individual basis it's not as clear and simple as lie vs don't lie.