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can we call boot camps predatory?

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u/blep2098 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Rithm pushed us to apply for mid-level roles as well. It wasn't on the level of Codesmith of course, I think they're the worst in that sense, but despite graduating a few months ago I still feel like none of us should be anything but juniors or entry-level. Sure can make full-sta

u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
Yeah I wrote about this in my predictions post but if you are a bootcamp it's tough right now because there just aren't any entry level role pathways (similar for CS grads from non-stop tier schools as well). So the only strategy working is the aim for roles requiring experience and hope that someone reads your resume as a qualified for them (and other strategies to connect with jobs). I think Tech Elevator's model can work, where they have partnerships, specifically the ones in Cleveland, Cincinnati, etc... to get people into entry level roles. Amazon's Technical Academy worked well for BloomTech, they published 2022 outcomes and that program was an anomaly that pulled up all their averages. Haven't heard anything about this for a while though. Codesmith is going to launch Future Code for the city of NY in the spring and it's for people making under 50K who live in NYC and have little to no programming experience. Codesmith was made for people who are "already hireable as junior engineers" so this will be interesting to see if these people can find entry level jobs. I'm going to be watching those grads for exaggerations because the program requires them to have little to no experience and I'm very curious how they will get placed with 6 months of Codesmith on their resume.... presumably NYC won't be happy if people all exaggerate their resumes so it puts Codesmith in an interesting spot. People won't be able to claim anything more than 6 months of experience, no stretching the truth of their past jobs, no exaggerating OSPs, very curious to see what Codemsith does for this. If they strongly believe there isn't an exaggeration problem, they are in for a huge wake up call with the NYC government, if they are aware of this and come up with new strategies that work for a large group of people that has no relevant experience at all, then maybe they will unlock their ability to take people earlier on in their journeys.