u/Careful-Mammoth3346 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
You're right and you said it better than I could have. From the communities and networks I've been in online, I've seen that narrative building tactic grow. And it is out of necessity due to the tough market with layoffs and ever increasing competition from boot camp grads, self
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
I stand in the "fundamental skills" camp and that you need to build genuine fundamental skills needed to be an engineer and then you need to get an entry level job to apply those skills and build experience you can't get anywhere else.
So I see a bootcamp's role in this to build those fundamental skills and help align people with entry level jobs.
That said, CS grads need 4 years to build those skills and even if accelerated, we're talking way more than 12 weeks to build those. So it puts bootcamps in a tough spot in this market.
I think this is why Codesmith and I butt heads so much on this topic, because their CEO believes that if you have soft-hard skills like problem solving, communication, teamwork, then you can be a mid level engineer.... you don't need fundamental skills if you can learn to learn, then you can get by anywhere.
Very different approach, but the market is demanding both things right now and in absence of one, they want fundamental skills first.
Again, all my opinions curious if you agree.