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Thinkful Bootcamp?

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u/dak78 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

I took a look at thinkful's outcomes deck and was pretty shocked at the fail out rate: ​ [https://assets.ctfassets.net/344fh7n2hs9h/3udsoeBfJ6ycHKAkqSsQZP/5aa6e7d0bee527b97b0db8b5ae76839d/21020820\_TFOutcomes\_SE\_2020.pdf](https://assets.ctfassets.net/344fh7n2hs9h/3udso

u/michaelnovati replied ·
I completely agree that looking both completion rate AND placement rates is super critical. The odds of getting a job are the odds of graduating X the placement rate, and not JUST the placement rate. Some more data: Springboard is another self-paced program and has similar reported results in their [main SWE program](https://ddf46429.springboard.com/uploads/resources/1698344646_Performance_Fact_Sheet_SEC_10.2023.pdf) and their [Career Track program](https://ddf46429.springboard.com/uploads/resources/1698344418_Performance_Fact_Sheet_SEC_prep_10.2023.pdf) About 7 to 15% "on time" completion rates in 2021. Their completed within 150% is better at 25 to 55% or so, which is still like flipping a coin that you will finish the program within 150% of the published time. On the other hand if you are one of the lucky people to graduate quickly, there IS a high chance of getting a job reported at 91.5% (within 12 months of graduating, from their website as of Dec 2023) BloomTech reports stats on this too that show a similarly 50/50-ish (see the website for the exact numbers) shot of graduating and a higher chance of getting a job if you do graduate ([read more here](https://www.bloomtech.com/reports/outcomes-report-2022) don't have time to summarize, but dig into the fine print in the raw report) In all fairness "on time" is the key here because in a self paced program, and the longer timeframe, so many people have life circumstances that come up to pause, delay, go at their own pace, and they might be happy with the 2+ years of education they got but eventually leave and move on. I'm not giving my opinions on any program specifically in this comment, just explaining the trend of completion rates for self paced part time programs.