u/quartz-crisis wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
We were told by Phil that he would only give a reference that you were working on your OSP for your time in Codesmith. Which, yes, I know we only really worked on it for like 4 weeks… I have to say, as someone who now has even ~6 months of actual work experience, I have no ide
u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
Thanks, I largely agree with your assessment too and it's why I try so hard to help the right people go there. People who go just because of the outcomes won't do well.without those other traits and attitude.
RE: OSP, it's a straight up lie that you worked for 3 months on the OSP and Phil saying that is actual fraud if he said that he does that. I understand that he thinks all of the time at Codesmith goes into that OSP but residents are also listing all of their other projects on their resume too, and their tech talks, and their "publications" (I e. medium post about the OSP) and that is all double or triple counted if you are getting 3 months credit for the OSP.
That said, they will also verify time spent after Codesmith. I found someone who removed a word from the README file 4 months later and they claimed 7 or 8 months in their LinkedIn.
I know several alumni who are floating 1 to 3 YOE to get interviews and jobs - and if works - and they just role the dice that no one will ask for a reference or that Codesmith will confirm the time ranges they request.
When a resident asks for a reference from Codesmith, they put down what they TOLD the company.... who the heck asks that on a normal reference request form... why is it relevant what I told the company, isn't the point of the reference check to independently match that what I told the company is true.