u/Soft-Highlight-8470 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
How's the outcome for Canadian folks btw? I was under the impression that finding a high paying software engineering jobs are much harder in Canada, since there are less openings here.
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
We don't have that many Canadians but they are definitely all over the place and typically lower than in the US.
Some points:
1. The market in Canada is MUCH LOWER COMPENSATION than in the USA, the salaries are maybe 30 ro 40% lower and don't increase as rapidly as you get promoted.
2. We're see a combination of people getting FAANG-level jobs in Canada, working for startups in Canada, and doing remote jobs in the USA, but I don't see any clear patterns or trends (too few people overall), and I don't think anyone can come in expecting any specific outcome.
3. My typical stance is that you should come to Formation and pay to be able to **confidently** walk into a Google interview and feel good about your performance (in DS&A, System Design, Behaviorals) and I feel comfortable saying that in ANY MARKET we as-close-to-guarantee-that-as-legally-possible that if you meet our entry bar, we can get you to that point (and if you change your mind, or misunderstood something, or we made a mistake accepting you, then you'll leave with a substantial partial refund). But the market is the market. We have amazing recruiter/ex-recruiter career coaches and amazing FAANG-level/ex-FAANG engineers working with you 1-1 and in 2-6 person group sessions multiple times a week and that's the same regardless of the market. So I feel like we are a great place to get advice and feedback on how to make the best of the market, but we don't have any secret hidden pathways to hand you a job.
4. I'm certainly seeing even Waterloo grads having a rough time in this market (who traditionally had like a 100% job rate) so the market is tough and we don't have any shortcuts there.