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Codesmith OSP code review: numerous "unbreak now" security vulnerabilities discovered after spending 5 minutes reviewing an "advanced security tool". Not the mid-level or senior engineering work it is claimed to be.

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u/annzilla wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

I had a codesmith grad contact me for a referral to my company. I didn't even submit it because I consider how they represented themselves on their resume as lying. This role was specifically for mid level and had a hard requirement of 2 years professional experience. I feel like

u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
Thanks for sharing. Yeah some people who push back on this think I have some kind of hidden interest in calling this behavior out, but it is solely because I know thousands of engineers, recruiters, product people that I've met during my Facebook days, who now work at hundreds of other companies, and the sentiment is unanimous that this behavior is anywhere from lying to fraud. Not one person has condoned if for any reason. That said, I very much understand the other point of view and acknowledge it as well: industry gatekeepers are blocking ambitious new engineers from getting a foot in the door so the ends justify the means. Which practical speaking, is a reasonable argument for the small number of people who genuinely fall in the bucket and then get appropriately levelled jobs they wouldn't get otherwise. My concern is lack of transparency in behalf of Codesmith. When called out they double down: turning OSLabs into a non profit (that still has far too many ties to Codesmith internally when you go a layer deeper than what is public), or instead of correcting the guidance of how to properly add references to their industry sponsored tech talks, they defend their wrong guidelines, instead of telling people to make the OSLabs 3 week projects 3 weeks on a resume, they say they will sign a letter of reference for 3-4 months from OSLabs. Like if the argument is the ends justify the means, tell it like it is! 100Devs (another free program, not Codesmith) tells it like it is in one of his Twitch live streams. Leon, their leader, explicitly tells people to lie on their resumes about working as a SWE for 100Devs to get past gatekeepers, hope it works eventually, and gives arguments for why. I bet this comment will instantly get downvoted haha.