u/JayawardenepuraKotte wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Michael, are there any bootcamps out there that prepare you skill wise for a mid/senior role? Or is it all just marketing? By bootcamp I mean in the traditional sense and not a career accelerator company like yours.
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
There are no bootcamps that I know of based on my definitions.
If you want high compensation, Codesmith, Launch School have well into six figure median salaries for placed students, and Rithm and Hack Reactor are close as well.
But there is no program that creates mid level and senior engineers because you can't get there without industry experience, but **let me explain what this means.**
I was promoted at Facebook from entry level to mid level in 3 months from starting and then mid level to senior in \~1.5 more years. The senior to staff in \~2 years.
So when I started, what was I? You could say 'well I was a mid level engineer from the start and underleveled!'
But that's really not true. I was an entry level engineer and I was treated like one, and I crushed it.
If I was hired as a mid level engineer, I might have underperformed or not done as well and maybe taken a lot longer to build the trust needed to get to senior. I had a fast trajectory but despite all the momentum in the world getting to mid level so fast, it took significant focus and work to get to senior.
So at the end of the day, you need that true on the job experience to develop the real world experience to level up and that can't be simulated.
What CAN BE TRAINED is if you HAVE THE EXPERIENCE BUT DON'T KNOW IT. So let's say you've worked for a year and having trouble leveling up. You might be able to reframe and reflect on that year in new ways and fill in gaps to get the most bang for your buck from that experience in the next job, or in getting promoted at your current job.