u/noorofmyeye24 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
> this is fraud That was my first thought when I read your comment that it’s what they advertise. How have they not been sued for false advertisement?
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
1. To sue someone you have to have damages in most states. First, someone would have to show that they joined Codesmith to become a mid level engineer and that they didn't AND that a reasonable person would have also believed they would become a mid level engineer seeing the same marketing. Second, they have to show that their outcome was worse and then somehow try to figure out how much they were overcharged given their outcome. If you raised your compensation by $25K, but didn't get a senior job, how "harmed" were you? It's really hard and not many people would want to deal with this kind of thing unless they felt really truly screwed over as a last resort.
2. There aren't any legal definitions of "mid level and senior engineer" and they could argue it's their opinion and that it's backed by the high salaries earned by graduates compared to competitors. Even if it's more of a gray area and they can make a reasonable case, it's not blatantly violating some legal definition.
3. If people get a job with a senior title and $130K salary it's hard to argue that you were harmed by this.
The harm I'm observing is for people a few years down the road and not have started off on the most ideal pathway... but how many of us were handed the perfect pathway for our lives and how much "damage" can even be measured.
So ultimately if someone reasonable signs up and pays $20K and gets a job titled mid level that pays $120K, they might have gotten what they expected! They might not know the difference between a title and and a level or even a title and a salary (like Codemsith does equating salary with level of job).
The potential harm for a lawsuit here is alumni who didn't get jobs at all and needed more training to get any kind of job. But it's still an uphill battle because Codesmith could blame you for not doing what they asked and saying that's why you didn't get a job.