u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
ANALYSIS AND COMMENTARY. I think people know me around here well so I won't introduce but I have a lot of comments. Most important point is in bold, the reset is just commentary.
1. **IF CODESMITH HAS THIS DATA SO EASILY ACCESSIBLE - BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT IT AND TELL PEOPLE THAT SALARIES ARE DOWN $20K (median/mean) FROM LAST YEAR.** I've seen a few info sessions where employees say that outcomes are "similar" to last year but at "different types of companies". Second, I've seen numerous documents shared with me where Codesmith ties it's "excellence" with the high salaries compared to bootcamp and CS degrees, so they have to take a hit with this kind of drop, when the best CS grads from Stanford and Harvard are still all making $150K base salaries at Figma, Asana, Palantir, etc...
2. The columns of this data align with their post-graduation CIRR collecting intake form so I think this is real and true that someone from Codesmith shared this from their official data.
3. These numbers are meaningless out of context. There are no dates, company names, job titles.... etc... you'd be surprised how many graduates jobs are actually contracts and not full time work, with worse benefits and no fixed timeframe but they are portrayed as $150K American Express jobs... Contract jobs pay higher cash becasue they have no benefits or stability and about 1/3 to 1/2 of those people are not employed anymore at that company in about a year from (my anecdotal estimation of Codesmith grad analysis).