As a former Codesmith employee, Codesmith is an absolute shit show

CIRR outcomes should be relied on as as legit yeah. The ways that games can be played are very sneaky. I've written a lot about this and have to timebox my time on Reddit so I'll try to quickly summarize and you can ask me more: 1. The spec was written by bootcamp outcomes managers and not lawyers. So it has some flaws. For example, there's no explanation of how salaries are recorded and what evidence is needed. They allow reporting a person who ghosts to be reported as employed if their LinkedIn says they have a job (no matter what the job is) and they exclude them from the salaries only. 2. The only absolute number on a CIRR report is the number of graduates included in the report. The rest are all percentages off of percentages off of percentages. The salaries are only for people who got jobs AND reported income. 90% being placed in 180 days means 90% OF GRADUATES were placed, but only 93% of people GRADUATED. And then the salaries might exclude another 5% that didn't report. CIRR should just have absolute numbers for everything, would be a lot more transparent. I've made mistakes trying to undo the math as have many. 3. Reports are only audited AFTER being submitted and once a year, not before. 4. Tech Elevator has to republish their report in H1 2022 because of mistakes in the CIRR worksheets. 5. Auditors are verifying that humans put in information correctly. But CIRR is vague on the sourcing of information, so it's good to have auditors but doesn't mean the data is flawless.