u/Cookies_N_Milf420 wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
Yes, I would hope that not everybody can pass a bootcamp with just any grade, there should be restrictions on that of course just like any other school. As for it being marketing statistics, there are plenty of third party organizations that gather information on boot camps, that
u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
CIRR has ways to be manipulated. For example, Codesmith hires back a small number of their students for a fixed 3-month contract and they have publicly stated that they push back the graduation date for those people but don't count them as placements. So what that does is it lets them hire back whatever number of people they want to push back those people's graduation dates and give them three more months of job hunting while they're doing this contract.
The less sketchy way that CIRR itself makes numbers look better than they are is that the only absolute numbers are the number of graduates included in the report, and then everything else is a percentage. So first the percentage of people that graduate on time, but without having the total number of people who enrolled. Then the percentage of people who graduated on time who got jobs within time frames. But the percentage of people who got jobs is using as the denominator, only the people who graduated in the report window. So it might look something like 90% but really people want to know the percentage of people who started on day one who graduated and got a job. They don't tell you the number of people who initially enrolled either.
So it takes some detective work to really figure out what's going on because the highly quoted top level numbers are somewhat massaged to look the best they can without the context.
Anyways not really that time or place to talk about this but just pointing it out.