u/aubertlone wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
It is insanely gross to link Vaas as an example. You wanna talk about codeSmith all day? Have at it, man. But don't be linking people in particular that are just trying to get a job. No one I know is lying or trying to misrepresent themselves in the job search. Just feels like a
u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
So I’m just basing this of the hundreds of LinkedIns I documented and the dozens of people I’ve worked with directly or indirectly from Codesmith. Things change, but you need to survey your whole cohort to kind of counter this rather than one case. You can always do whatever you want on your resume. It’s pretty frustrating to have super diligent data and people tell me I’m wrong because of one off cases. I’m not sharing the spreadsheet because it’s a privacy violation in my opinion but I’m happy to share the methodology and you can repeat it on your own.
Similarly. At Formation, the majority of people we work with are experienced industry engineers and we worked with them 10 to 20 hours a week as they have full time jobs elsewhere. Yet just because we have a small number of people with no experience at all - either no bootcamp or straight from bootcamp - and combine with the fact that I'm absurdly active on this bootcamp subreddit, some people use those facts to make false conclusions that Formation is a bootcamp and I'm secretly here to get people to choose Formation over a bootcamp. One off cases can be 100% real but that doesn't mean they reveal a pattern unless you zoom out more. In fact Formation does better if more people go to bootcamps and do well because we're the perfect place to go a year or more down the road in your career!
How did you list your OSP and other projects? If you put them under education with Codesmith, I’m assuming you have past experience to put under experience and other projects to put under projects. If your past experience is relevant, then you fall into the smaller bucket where people do sometimes put it or not and it doesn’t really matter because of that experience….. if you had a blank experience section and only have projects and education sections then I ask you to come back in 1-2 months of job hunting and let me know how you are doing and if you made changes to the resume because I suspect you won’t get a lot of calls.
EDIT: I randomly chose a project from the recent announcements choose any of them!