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1. People practice how to talk about OSP in depth without lying and without identifying it as a it is. This public video describes what I've heard from alumni and staff members, and what I've seen in alumni that I've interviewed myself, and specifically who talk to Erik Kirsten (a senior board advisor) as well: **"there's this one guy in particular his name is eric kirsten uh and this guy has a silver tongue and he will teach you how to say anything like you know you tell him hey um this is my background how do i present it to an employer to where it doesn't look like i just decided to switch careers because you want to avoid that stigma and he will give you a great way to say it you know"** 33:03 from [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkWYanfkfCY&t=1983s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkWYanfkfCY&t=1983s)
2. I totally agree there should be additional checks and bounds to catch people making it through the recruiter screen. That catches some people, others change their pitches in the next rounds. Others keep it going and don't get caught. It's really case by case, but agree. A lot to unpack here. But Codesmith has a process to perform background checks for OSP projects where people provide information on what they told the recruiters and a specific person at Codesmith does the calls to confirm that information. I can't talk too much about this to protect the sources, so I can't really use anything more detailed than this as part the evidence as a result.
3. Yes, some people are getting jobs by wrongfully assumed OSPs. I believe (no evidence) that some people are 100% forward about their experience, some people are the opposite and lie, and average person is just in the middle, not lying and not fully revealing everything about the OSP.
4. I was referring to the fact that majority of Fellows at Formation have full time jobs already and they are training part time with Formation on their own schedules to reach their new career goals. Where are the links to all these people on Reddit "more and more"?
At a bigger picture. Do you believe that I've worked with a dozen or two alumni? And do you believe I've interviewed hundreds of people and reviewed thousands of resumes over the past 13 years? Do you believe that I participated in dozens of hiring committee meetings? If you do, everything I'm saying is just pulling from these sources.
How many Codesmith alumni have you helped get jobs and go through the emotional ups and downs of interviews? And how many people have you interviewed and how many hiring committees have you been on and how many resumes have you seen?
Your information is coming out of your opinions and not from any basis. You are cherry picking anonymous people on Reddit who you agree with that validate your views.