u/Efficiu wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
That’s not true. Every CIRR report includes every single student who did or did not find a job within 90 and 180 days of their start date. It also includes a small fraction of students who have to report BEFORE the start of the program they aren’t intending to job hunt (entrepr
u/michaelnovati replied · ★ FEATURED
You are straight up wrong about CIRR. The median salaries are of people who reported salaries and got jobs only and exclude everyone else. So drop off 1 is the graduation percentage. People who don't graduate are not included in the median salary calculation. Then there's people that don't get jobs. They are not included in the median salary calculation. And then outside sources can be used to confirm employment for percentage employed but without a salary to include the median calculation. You said you do a lot of research so read the CIRR and it's very clear in the Excel worksheets they provide... complete with examples showing exactly this
This is exactly what I'm talking about how CIRR has built in vagueness to make this happen and help paint programs in the best light.