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Is it worth going to Codesmith?

r/codingbootcamp

u/Efficiu wrote (the comment Michael replied to):

Bootcamps admit people of all skills levels and background as well (the good ones require skills testing). People with no experience alongside classmates that are computer science grads or product managers. It’s not an excuse to withhold employment % You can also absolutely tr

u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
You’re asking to compare people that get jobs within 90 days of starting so you can compare it with people who get jobs within 90 days of FINISHING. Makes no sense. You are asking to compare people that do 50 hours a week to 10 hours a week. Makes no sense. You are asking to compare people with a goal of getting a job in 8 months with those who want one ASAP. Not everyone wants a job ASAP at Formation. People often get several offers and keep training until they get one they like. All of this makes adds to why it makes no sense to give those CIRR numbers. I agree with your ask though. I would love to provide better data that can help people estimate how long it might take to get a job given their unique circumstances across over 5 dimensions. So far it hasn’t been a big ask and people talk to current Fellows to get an idea of how it works. Quite frankly we are doing ourselves a disservice not explaining what we do clearly so I hear you on this. I just need to overwhelmingly emphasize that nothing else like Formation exists in the world because calling us a bootcamp over and over only makes it harder to understand. I hope over the next few years it will become clearer what we are doing! EDIT: I really need to emphasize how unique each persons experience is. They can ramp up their hours week to week, pause for personal situations or work issues (majority of Fellows are currently working full time) , and our number one priority is to help them achieve their goals. For some people that’s time, for some peoples that’s money, for some people it’s role. We measure a lot of metrics in regards to how satisfied people are with their progress and outcomes and those are super important to us.