u/BootcampBen wrote (the comment Michael replied to):
You think the people at Capital One, who have hired gobs of Codesmith grads, are going to be fooled by someone listing their OSP as work experience? Not just fooling them into getting an interview, but then fooling them through multiple interviews and into a job? Really? At a c
u/michaelnovati replied · · edited ★ FEATURED
Yeah actually I do. The world is very large. These companies are very large. People see hundred and hundreds of resumes.
1. Several times a week people on my team mislabel Codesmith alumni as industry experienced based on their LinkedIns. Recruiters spend seconds looking at your resume and they don't read bullet point 15 that says "product incubated under oslabs" and when they do, they aren't pondering what that is and if it's open source
2. I asked some people the other day about this with some examples, industry experienced people and two said expletive laced sentences about this practice.
You can blame it on the recruiters or the companies but things are the way they are because the vast majority of people have integrity in their resumes and don't do this and companies don't build teams of recruiters who are trained and focused only on this tiny edge case.
The problem here is that Codesmith teachers reinforce this because it's all reinforced in the Codemsith family and I come across like a "gatekeeping crazy person" around these engineers. But there are far far far more people who think this practice is wrong... not lying about experience but just listing OSP as experience right beside an open source section intentionally placed to validate the OSP as legit experience.
EDIT: Capital One has 11,000 engineers so yeah having 30 from Codesmith is completely under the radar. Most companies this size assume there are more foreign spies working for the company than that.... seriously.